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a call to serve...I guess that may be a wonderfull thing, but it doesnt really works that simple to me.
And if people dont whant to be helped? Then all your meaning in life will simply fade away.And humanity rules itself by that law of "rather hurt the loved one than the feared one, because love vanishes, but fear lives on."
I guess Im best at serviong my personal good, for, as Exar Kun said, one needs to be happy before it can make someone happy.
"rather hurt the loved one than the feared one, because love vanishes, but fear lives on."
-Okay I have to admit, I don't understand that line well at all. But maybe it's just my personality. I do not believe real love vanishes at all. True love is the most powerful thing there is. I haven't felt it myself, but I've seen others in love and you can feel it by just looking at them. Fear only persists if you let it. Eventually people get over their fears.
Darth Cassus
03-30-2006, 23:27
love is the strongest of a emotions but it is also is the greatest weakness.
Darth Opacus
03-31-2006, 00:09
I have to disagree with Diana saying people get over their fears. That is true in some cases, but take phobias. Phobias are fears that people generally don't get over without serious mental help. Some people have the ability to get over fears, but some don't.
Love, there is something no one can agree on. Love is a double-edged blade. It can heal, make you laugh and at the same time, cut and make you bleed. Love is a dangerous weapon that some people wield as a child would wield a gun. They randomly point it around and someone ends up hurt or dead.
From my personal experience, even true and ultimate love ends, cause one of the most excrutiating pains known to men.
Because love is, as Exar told so well, a two bladed ( read it two person) game.
If one fails, everything else falls apart.
Fear is the most antient of all feelings.
One starts to feel fear before it can feal love, and feal will follow you all your life, love...only if you lucky.
Well I was never one to be afraid of much....until recently. I was required to take a speech class for my major. I realized that I was more afraid of speech then I am say...a mountain lion. (I have been very close to one in the wild before so I do have a basis for comparison) I realized though that I had to take this class or I had to change my major, so over the course of the quarter I forced myself to overcome that fear and I did. I still get nervous, but no more than anyone else when they do a speech.
Fears can be overcome even without mental help. All you need to do is to learn to control your emotions, but I suppose that would be different for you Sith because you like to embrace emotion. How would you learn to overcome Fear?
Darth Cassus
04-02-2006, 14:15
The only fear I have is fear it shelf.
Darth Opacus
04-02-2006, 17:21
Being afraid is nothing to be ashamed of. Fear keeps your senses sharp and gives you the extra burst of adrenaline for fight or flight. I agree that people can overcome fears, but I said phobias. Phobias keep the person from even trying whatever it is they are afraid of. I know fear can be my friend, but also an enemy. Fear, to the extreme, can make you freeze. Learning to control the amount of fear is the key.
Darth Cassus
04-02-2006, 17:30
If you go to battle you your enemy fears you then you have already won. If you don't control control their fear and defeat them before you fight them you should just retreat.
Fear is a mind killer, but it keeps you heads up.
In fact, if you see things in a diferent look, politicians do theyre best so that we all live in fear, for fear is control.
Mrs. Darth Vader
04-07-2006, 01:05
Power would be a nice thing to have. To have the power of a dictator. Than no one will cross you. Of course to have the power to wield the Force like the Star Wars movies would be real nice. Add to that the power to call forth the arch angel of death ( Shiva ) like shown on the old Ten Comandments movie by Sesel B Demills. No one will admit it but Moses used the dark side here. I refer to the movie since you see the special effects of the arch angel of death. In the Bible you read about it but can not see it. The efects on the Egyptians were the same the Vader choke of death, hence moses used the Dark side.
Darth-Trayer
04-08-2006, 05:20
Power would be a nice thing to have. To have the power of a dictator. Than no one will cross you. Of course to have the power to wield the Force like the Star Wars movies would be real nice. Add to that the power to call forth the arch angel of death ( Shiva ) like shown on the old Ten Comandments movie by Sesel B Demills. No one will admit it but Moses used the dark side here. I refer to the movie since you see the special effects of the arch angel of death. In the Bible you read about it but can not see it. The efects on the Egyptians were the same the Vader choke of death, hence moses used the Dark side.
If memory serves me correctly, didn't God tell moses to warn the Egyptians that if he wouldn't let his people go, then they would be punished. I don't see it as using the dark side. I don't think moses enjoyed what he did. He was just following orders. Unlike Palpatine who wanted to be ruler. I think a lot of the force isn't as much negative and positive, but why you are doing it. If you are doing it for selfish reasons its considered wrong, even if what you are going is good.
Mrs. Darth Vader
04-08-2006, 23:36
Lets put it this way, Moses did not send love and sweet light to the Egyptians. In the Bible version not the movie Moses was more angry at the Egyptians. Palpatine did free the galaxy from the oppression of the trsade federation and the Jedi. It is all a matter of point of view. If a Palpatine took over America and killed all the War Lords I will celabrate. May be you will morn with the former oppressors. The Jedi represent those who are currently in power so those who are not look for a change in regime. I guess you made your descision. Chose the Jedi you have (Yoda Voice ). here is where the computer lacks. If you were here I could have said it like Yoda.
Darth-Trayer
04-09-2006, 03:48
"Lets put it this way, Moses did not send love and sweet light to the Egyptians.In the Bible version not the movie Moses was more angry at the Egyptians "
Thats correct, but it was a final judgment. there were several public warnings to set the "chosen " people go. Wasn't it moses that told god (in the burning bush) that he thought it would be a better idea to send someone else. Wanting to rule and being chosen to are two totally different things. Palpatine did what he did cause he wanted power and to rule.
"Palpatine did free the galaxy from the oppression of the trade federation and the Jedi."
Yes, but only to put it under his own rule. No real difference. the trade federation was his own working. I bet if he didn't tell them what to do ( as a sith) they probably wouldn't have gotten as far as they did.
I guess you made your decision. Chose the Jedi you have (Yoda Voice ). here is where the computer lacks. If you were here I could have said it like Yoda.
My choice as told before is no one concern. It is MY path. no one else's.
Our choices are our concern only Trayer, for only we will have to answer before them.
love is the strongest of a emotions but it is also is the greatest weakness.
First of all, this is an awesome thread and I feel extremely privileged to be here and read this. Thank you. I've seen way too many forums degenerate into flame wars over the whole Dark/Light thing, and it gives me a migraine. So far what I've read has been genuinely mature and thoughtful on both sides, and it gives someone like me whom some would consider to be a "fence sitter" a chance to reflect on many things.
I've often felt that the old school Jedi and the Sith had one thing in common: they were both afraid of love. For the old school Jedi, it meant embracing their passions and potential to become attached to someone, and for the Sith, it meant discovering the part of themselves that could feel compassion and caring, and many other things that would be considered "weak" because it would get in the way of objectivity as a warrior.
Does this strike a bell with anyone? It's a subject of great interest, as a passionate lover of both Apollo and Dionysus. :)
~Alena
Darth Cassus
04-25-2006, 23:58
Strange tihng love is is happness and pain all warpped in a tiny package.
Strange tihng love is is happness and pain all warpped in a tiny package.
Heh. Well spoken.
~Alena
I dont feel that sith fear love, altough such a feeling is too complicated to control in order to use it in a profitable way.
But everything love has to give, its subproducts, life anger, joy, and the sheer energy of it, are all very usable by the sith on theyre path.
Darth Opacus
04-26-2006, 17:08
I agree with Azazel. Sith do not fear love, they embrace the power that flows from it. An emotion such as love can be dangerous and also powerful.
I agree with Azazel. Sith do not fear love, they embrace the power that flows from it. An emotion such as love can be dangerous and also powerful.
I have often heard of the fictional Sith that they supposedly do not love. If this is a change, I certainly applaud it!
~Alena
Darth Devious
04-27-2006, 03:57
Where have you heard that sith do not love? I thought it was jedi who did not love?
Never eard that " not loving " also.
But why shouldt the sith love' after all, its the most powerfull feeling, and the sith use feelings.
the jedi´s are a bit confused with feelings, thats why they fear them.
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