master-apprenticeship

[Lord Cassus]

y do we sith have the master-apprentice system? why would i-as a master teach my apprentice everything i know? i mean when he knows everything i do odds are that he might try and perhaps succed to kill me. why then not keep most of the knowledge to myself?

[Darth Sidious]

"We" dont. i think were probably the only sith site i know of that i can say that about as well.

Learning something for yourself is much better than someone telling it to you

[Poison Rose]

I understand that, but maybe some sort of guide? I'm new here and to be honest I don't really know what I'm doing to become more "sith".

[Lord Cassus]

yes master sidious i agree with u. perhaps i shouldnt have used the word "we" its just that during my studies i have come to understand that the sith way is that the master teaches the apprentice everything he knows which i know i wouldnt do

[Seti-I-Shadim]

I understand that, but maybe some sort of guide? I'm new here and to be honest I don't really know what I'm doing to become more "sith".

Poison Rose,

I understand your predicament. Where to start, right? Well, the best first thing is exactly what you are doing. Being around other Sith & asking questions. If there's anyway I can help, email me at setiishadim@yahoo.com

- Seti

[Master Thompson]

Mistress Rose,

Not a Sith here obviously, but I would recommend reading the SITH Teachings and lectures. Darth can point you to them, they are on this site and they are very comprehensive. I use them to provide my students some background and historical base on my site. I would also recommend getting a list of the Ancient Sith Lords and reviewing their history's. You can find a list & comprehensive background on most of the most powerful Sith Lords on Wikipedia and if you cross reference the names on www.starwars.com you may get additional information.

Speaking from experience; if you do this, you will gain a deep insight and perspective of the Sith Way and it's teachings.

[Darth Opacus]

The master/apprentice relationship is changing in the Star Wars universe. I had posted something about a new comic where the Sith have become more Jedi-like in their organization. No longer are there only two, now there are many. There are Sith Overlords who train several new Sith. There is only one Sith Lord who oversees the entire Sith Order. In several ways, this forum reflects that idea and obviously was put into action before the comic.

[Master Thompson]

Really? Is that right? Can some one find more information on this and post in on the Ashla site?

[Seti-I-Shadim]

No problem.:twisted:

[Darth Draconis]

Unfortunate that the Sith are becoming that way in Star Wars, Darth Bane annihilated the brotherhood of Darkness for a very good reason. :palp: The Sith will rise against their masters, it is inevitable, that is why there must only be two.

[Azazel]

I finally managed to get my hands on the comics exar kun is talking about, and yes, much has changed since Yavin.
Im my opinion things are better in the new order, with one master and many aprendices.
Darth Bane was giving his best to keep control of the sith inability for long term loyalty, by creating the rule of two, but only because of that.
If the force didnt grew thinner or weaker for the jedi, why should it be so for the sith?
The source its the same.
Once again, this forum is ahead of its time.

[Mrs. Darth Vader]

Here is where I seperate the movie Sith from the real life Sith. In the real world it is better to pool your knowledge because we can all learn from one another. If you keep the secrets as Darth Cassas suggests it will be a very silent message board and boardom will set in. A message board is simular to a talk show it must inform and stimulate the audiance. In the movies you can have master with hold information from the apprentice because it is just that a movie and the screen play writer makes up the results. In real life people will walk away if information is with held and look elsewhere. Another wards it will go from a dynamic place to dead air. Not all Sith relationships have to end in apprentice killing the master. It depends if the master is truely a master and understands the value of loyalty. If the Sith master balances the Force as suggested by Palpatine in the movie this is a very powerfull posistion to be in because you will have tought your apprentice well and all he needs to know at the same time gained his trust and loyalty. The most powerfull dictaters on earth had a staunch loyal cadre willing to die if necessary for that dictater. The dumb dictater treats his cadre like toilet papper and is quickly overthrown.

[Omnihilus]

I agree with you Mrs Vader, i can only imgaine how hard finding the center would be if Lao Tzu would have kept his writings as self contained secrets!!

If one is to be known as a master, he must have discernment, he must not share all at all times,yet open himself to inquiry and lead to clarity. He must know who has ears to hear, yet not presume anything. He must know the hearts of his student and those he might touch, for he has taken upon himself the suffering of the universe in his mandate of the eternal oath of the masters. In that they sacrifice self that others may find the path. Yet do not be fooled, this sacrifice is nothing that we would assume to be purely altruistic, it is simply another step in the process and by NO MEANS the end...as there is not one, thus proving the master teachers aims as aimless indeed, the mark of one who has achieved no mind and attained to singularity….

[Mrs. Darth Vader]

Good post Omnihilus. It is obvious by your post that you are well read in esoteric thought. What does Omnihilus mean? sounds like it is of the root of Nhilism. Is it laten?

[Omnihilus]

Thanks for your comment Mrs Vader.Omnihilus is a creation/voidance/destruction word/name i put together from two words. It would sum up what a singularity is; something that is....all in one in none. I can't describe it any other way. Any yes it is a latin derivative. I took latin some time ago, but i don't remember a lick of it!

[Darth Rageous]

Individualism is a beutiful thing indeed.

[Mrs. Darth Vader]

Glad to see you back Darth Rageous.

[Virtu]

y do we sith have the master-apprentice system? why would i-as a master teach my apprentice everything i know? i mean when he knows everything i do odds are that he might try and perhaps succed to kill me. why then not keep most of the knowledge to myself?
I view this more as a mentorship than anything else. Each party benefits in their own way from the arrangement. I once asked my mentor why he mentored and (besides wanting to help others) he told me something very interesting. Being a mentor strove him even further to pursue and perfect his craft b/c he was not learning for one but for two. He not only became wiser in his field but he learned much about himself in the process. This is one of many benefits the Master may enjoy. In the end it depends on the POV of the Master, some may rather not want to teach at all.

Good post Mrs. and Omnihilus I agree with nearly all points, guess that's why I said their good. ;)

[Darth Fury]

Having one master always sounded silly to me thats y I have always thot it important to have more than one mentor, i can say I have learned my lessons from atleast 3 others and have also shared my thoughts with a group of 2 others that I lived with who were at about the same skill level as I was. I have always found the rule of two and then having dark assasins all over the place a waste of time we limit ourselves with that concept.

[Darth Draconis]

I think it would be a valid possibility in a world more similar to that of fiction. However, as we do not live in fiction I must certainly agree that only two Sith would be rather limiting.